engineering task that carries with it a lot of potential problems. so is it under control? it is more under control than it was in march and april 2011, for sure, but the decommissioning of the power plant, even the government admits, will take 40 years. i think one thing that people don't talk enough about because they focus on radiation, which may or may not be a concern, is the huge cost. the cost of bringing that place under control is astronomical. >> david mcneill, thank you for being with us. it is great to meet you here in your home turf in tokyo, japan, where we are broadcasting from. he and another journalist lucy birmingham wrote this remarkable book, "strong in the rain: surving japan's earthquake, tsunami, and fukushima nuclear disaster." when we come back, we look at a film that is just out called, "nuclear nation," and we will speak with the film maker who made following the nuclear refugees. stay with us.